la gran siete Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:55

Corbyn will see the election as a victory-
a) because 12 months ago he had been written off not least by members of his own party as an unelectable disaster
b) been relentlessly vilified and ridiculed by a rabid press that badly needs regulating
c) because May is nowa lame duck PM whose gamble failed spectacularly and who quite probably willbe at the mercy of a bunch gay hating creationists .Corbyn will now goad her relentlessly during PMQ

EarthRod Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:56

I have a total disliking for the EU bureaucratic organisation and feel it's a dictatorship heading towards total domination and power. IMO we are best out of it.

However, if a total break (hard Brexit) is not possible due to Theresa's incredible blunder, then alternatives will have to be examined.

In parliament there are now (the result of Theresa's blunder) too many Tory MPs who are against a hard Brexit and, together with other MPs from other political parties, any vote in parliament to negotiate a hard Brexit with the EU will be defeated and I think it will be overwhelmingly defeated.

I reckon the future path under examination will now be a single market scenario and/or customs union.

Definitely not what I want, but am prepared to accept the costly challenge of this path.

The Dude Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:56

Still claiming that you've accepted the result of the EU ref rasczak? data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

You might want to pay some attention to the Labour manifesto, the comments made by Corbyn on freedom of movement before the election, the comments made by McDonnell after the election on single market membership..

I hate to be the guy who pees on your rug, but you're going to be severely disappointed if you think the GE result somehow changes the countries direction on Brexit. data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Cliff Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:56

Labour lost by a country mile. But Corbyn personally considers himself a winner because he did so much better than expected. His position as leader of the opposition is cemented.
Why not have a little moment of glory!

The Dude Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:56

As I've been saying all along, this is what this election was all about as far as Jeremy is concerned.
Well done to the man too, he played a blinder and he's got exactly what he wanted, probably even slightly more than he wanted, but not too much more...as that would have been the end of both him and his party.

Jeremy Corbyns position as leader of the opposition is cemented, of that there is no doubt. data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Rasczak Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:56

We voted to leave. We will leave. Everything else is up for negotiation. I wouldn't get to hung up on the term Single Market - the end package, whatever its form, will be wrapped in a PR coat with its own name even if it may be nigh on the same thing. data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Sonic67 Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:57

No they didn't.

Opinion polling for the United Kingdom general election, 2017 - Wikipedia

The night before.

Polls said 12%, 1%, 13%, and 8% in favour of the Conservatives. The night before the vote. Actual result was 2.5%.
Thatcher went and John Major won the next election?

springtide Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:57

Labour has a six-point lead over the Tories, new poll finds

The Dude Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:57

That's funny as I was just going to suggest the very same thing on the term 'Soft Brexit' which is certainly quite a bit more malleable than the EU constitution. data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Rasczak Publish time 26-11-2019 01:00:57

Well, we can agree there. Soft Brexit is a flexible term as is hard Brexit. But I think we can say that the latter definitely includes a 'no deal' scenario which has now lost its Parliamentary majority and accordingly is off the table.
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