Finally Switched to PC Gaming
Hello all,Finally decided to switch to PC gaming and have the below on order from PC Specialist. I'm wanting to run 4k @ 60fps( ?), will this be able to do that?
I plan to get a decent monitor further down the line, any recommendations on what I should be looking at?
TIA.
Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 460X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
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Motherboard
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
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1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Ultra Quiet Fans
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11 AC1200 867Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence There is no need to create 2 threads exactly the same within 2 hours.
And yes, that build is fine since you have basically chosen the most expensive components data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7 I know. The first didn't show up until just now so I reposted thinking the first had failed.
Was only asking as someone else was telling me I should've got a Titan. How much is that costing ya?
Which screen are you getting?
You're spending a lot on PC without getting a good screen. Thats never smart. Your monitor will outlast your GPU and probably CPU and its the device that allows you to actually see what your machine can do.
Similarly what are you doing for sound?
I understand the urge to get top of the line 2080ti and 9900k but you can potentially save £500-£1000 and buy a nice monitor, dac, amp, speaker and headphones for that much money.
Theres no point getting a 2080ti and a 9900k if your'e not going to be pushing the pixels and refresh rate with a good monitor.
Also if you're new to PC gaming, don't underestimate a good mechanical keyboard and mouse. This will again outlast your graphics card. No, I intend on getting a good screen, that's what I'm asking about. My TV will suffice until I decide on which one I'm getting. It wasn't an urge to get a 2080ti and 9900k, it was a thought out decision that I've been pondering for a while as I want to run 4K @ 60fps, or 1440p> @ 144hz when I get my monitor.
For sound I'll use my dolby 5.1 when I'm casual in front of TV, and turtle beach 800x at the desk.
I've posted another thread under peripherals reference a mechanical keyboard and mouse, going shopping for those in store so I can test a few options. A 9900k is going to be wasted at 4k 60 FPS.
A 2080ti is going to be wasted at 1440p.
This is why I was asking about monitor choice. Not matching specs with a monitor and just aimlessly buying the highest specs available is throwing money away. Doing that when you’re casually playing in front of a tv is just a fools play tbh.
On sound, you should be ditching those turtle beaches and buying some proper headphones with a dac and amp. That will rub about 400 total for a very low to mid range pair.
If it was so well thought out, why a 9900k? It’s overkill for gaming at any decent resolution. Wow. They're not going to be wasted are they. They're going to run what I want - comfortably. That's the important bit that I've been thinking over. Getting something that can do what I want, or getting something that does it very well, if I'm spending money I want my purchase future proof for at least 5 years.
If you read the original email I said 4k @ 60fps( ?)Or later for the monitor 1440p>. Not exact figures as I'm in the market for a monitor, which is the whole point of this thread. Your notions of "wasted" and "overkill" aren't the same as mine, I can justify the extra cash to give myself options both now and further down the line - TV or monitor play depending on mood (not aimlessly throwing money away - versatility).
I'm not throwing my turtle beaches away, I love the way they feel and sound. Wasn't what I was asking here, not even related.
All I did is post that I'm new to PC gaming, tried to clarify whether my rig could perform 4k @ 60fps( ?) and would like some opinions on monitors.
You've taken that as an opportunity to try and patronise me and flaunt your alleged PC knowledge.
You haven't answered (or acknowledged) either of my original questions. Thanks for giving me a warm welcome to the PC community. I'm not trying to be a dick. Apologies if it sounds like that.
When you mentioned well thought out decisions and a 9900k, I couldnt help but giggle.
My definition of waste is buying a component you will never use. If someone buys a 9900k and never uses it to 100% and the 9700k or AMD 3600 would have given nearly the EXACT same performance, then I think of it as waste. I think the 9900k is a processor you reccomend to professionals who need the extra cores or multithreading as its simply not going to make ANY impact in gaming over the lower budget processors for 1440p/4k/ultrawide gaming.
In PC gaming, the best thing to do is match your components to your monitor/screen you want to use. Its not as simple as back in the day when we had 1080p or 1440p 144hz because now we have MANY options that TV and console gamers would never have.
I'll list them below:
1. 1080p/240hz - compeititve gamers
2. 1440p/1440hz-240hz - competitive gamers or mid-range
3. 1440p ultrawide - midrange/high range
4. 1440p super ultrawide - medium high range
5. 4k/144hz panels - low high range
6. 1440p ultrawides with local dimming and HDR - high high range
For your budget and the money you're spending, I'd at minimum think about an ultrawide. I don't think 4k gaming is worth it because its basically 16:9 1440p gaming with a bit more clarity. Ultrawide is a difference experience on console gamer can ever experience.
Super ultrawide and local dimming 1440p ultrawides are for enthusiasts IMO. Super ultrawide is the best experience IMO but its bleeding edge tech/aspect ratio so support is going to be a pain. And local dimming sets cost £2,000.
Getting a decent ultrawide for around £600 will have you set for along while. If you wanted to go 4k, sure you can but I'd definitley consider downgrading the processor as its not going to be used most of the time as the GPU will bottleneck your FPS with demanding games.
For specific models of screens to look at:
1. Samsung CRG 9 £1250 usually (super ultrawide)
2. AW3418DW £950 (its the older model which has just been replaced by the £1500 AW342 model but they are basically the same apart from a slightly wider color gamut for photoshop work)
3. LG 34-F £1100
The best value bet is getting an AW3418DW because its the BEST build quality, BEST warranty, BEST dead pixel guarantee and dell are safer than the other brands. I have a couple for sale for £650 and it comes with dell transferrable warranty which is AMAZING. Literally you can phone them 2 years from now and they'll replace the panel if anything is playing up.Don't go for a refurb, definitley go second hand. Refurbs for that model only have 90 days warranty. Second hand mint conditions have 1000 days of warranty. Don't buy directly from retailers because its now overpriced as its technically going to be replaced.
The CRG9 is bleeding edge tech but its better you use one IRL as the aspect ratio is A LOT. On videos it looks weird but in person with a video game open it looks amazing. But support is not great for it so i wouldn't want someone new to pc gaming tinkering rather than enjoying themselves.
LG 34-F has 24 extra hz, wider color gamut, freesync support but its not available second hand mint condition as its just come out, LG has poor quality control, and loads of complaints about it. The warranty from LG for their monitors and CS is pathetic compared to dell.
I would not get the new AW342 model as its basically the AW341 model for 3x the price. (typical AW price gouging for product launches).
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In regards to sound, again I just want you to get the best experience you can with sound. You're spending A LOT of money, and for that I would personally expect at least mid-range sound quality. On a budget, AKG 701s or Beyerdynamic DR990 Pros with a cheap dac/amp will BLOW away any headphones you've heard unless you're a closet audiophile. That usually runs around £200-300 and given the money you're spending, you can downgrade the CPU to a 9700k and have crazy amazing sound quality.
I'm not trying to be a knob or flaunt any knowledge. I just want you to get the best value for your money. Its really that simple. I really dislike reading when people spent loads of money but I know they're ending up with a subpar experience when they're knew to anything.
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If you just want a answer to if your 9900k/2080ti can hit 60fps on ultra, yes it can. just as good as a 3600/2080ti can hit 60fps or a 8600/2080ti on ultra at 4k.
If you're buying components to try and future proof, i wouldn't bother. Future proofing in the PC world is.. just not possible. The only thing I can say is processor computer power for gaming at higher resolutions is at a very good place now.
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once again, was not trying to flaunt knowledge. just trying to give you a hand as when i started at PC gaming, i used my budget like crap and had so many regrets down the line which just ended up in me spending more money when i could have worked within my preliminary budget. Frame rate over resolution for me. 4K doesn't add much, 10 bit colour over 8 bit is visually better. Once you have played on a 144hz monitor you'll never go back to 60hz.
As for the turtle beaches? Are they 5.1 or 7.1?
It makes a huge difference having surround audio, even if it is software based. Appreciate the post, TYVM. So, I only intend to play 4K on my TV casually, not on a monitor. Those Ultrawides look like they're exactly what I'm after. Not 4k but a really good res at a faster fps/hz than a tv can handle. Didn't know ultra wides were a thing TBH, but like the look of them, and the fact they're curved can only add to the immersion. So would you say the below is not a good option. Seems too cheap to me, but looks like you get a lot for the money.
LG 34UC79G-B 34" UWHD IPS 144Hz FreeSync Ultra Wide Curved Gaming Monitor - Laptops Direct
I had looked at comparisons on the 9900 and 9700, seemed that you only gained an increase of 5% at most. I was thinking it was worth it as that 5% could be the difference on a data heavy portion of the game.
The price difference between the 2 was also only 5% of my build, so thought it made sense. It wasn't anywhere near £300, more like half that. Do you still think that I should put that money elsewhere?