Do you support the Johnson deal [3 October version]?

raduv1

I support the proposal as further negotiations and a deal is better than leaving without one in my opinion.  As such voted yes.

tapzilla2k

It's probably not going to be that different from May's deal, just a few words changed here and there. That's if Johnson compromises to get to the negotiation stage. Which he probably won't, based on his do or die pledge.

Bl4ckGryph0n

That is because in general the WA wasn’t so bad. It’s the backstop arrangements that cause the problem. All it needed was a tweak, but the EU kept on saying non.

kav

No but it can be built and negotiated upon to reach something workable.

richp007

Not likely enough time without an extension though. All part of Johnson's plan.

kav

Yes agreed. I said earlier 31 January would probably be enough time to work something out now that the UK government is showing they're willing to compromise. If they fail to extend it won't be for any good reason, it will be because of Johnson's hubris.

richp007

Yeah if he is serious about getting a deal then he'll extend if the EU say they will work with the proposal.

They could end up calling his bluff on it in fact. Then he will get the blame if they offer and he refuses.

An extension just means we stay members and they'll get to see what happens in a GE. A win win for them.

Pacifico

If Boris agrees an extension he is toast

Bl4ckGryph0n

What is the point of an extension when there are no specific issues being raised?

richp007

I don't believe for one minute Johnson is serious about this. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt for a moment and say he is.

If the EU say they can work with the proposals he's put forward, but further negotiation is needed to thrash out the finer details to a mutually agreeable arrangement, then it would be irresponsible to not extend the deadline.

In reality what is a few more months when we've waited 3 years? If it means securing a deal that avoids a no deal. And thus putting an end to this phase.

There should be no-one displeased with this; it delivers on the referendum, avoids No Deal, and Johnson becomes the man that sorted Brexit and proved all his doubters fools.

What can possibly go wrong?