Boris Johnson - Indictment for Misconduct in Public Office

weaviemx5

Or “we send £250m to the EU each week”

It would still be a large amount and serve the purpose, whilst being true.

Sonic67

So now "he said, she said." How did they vote?

We now have the "impartial" speaker of the House of Commons hanging on till brexit is finished while driving round in a car with a remainer sticker.

It used to be we'd have a vote, the vote was accepted.

Now you lose a vote so you use your money to try to stop it happening. The other side then uses their money in retaliation.

This isn't democracy. It's who's got the biggest bank balance and both sides have huge amounts. Sending hundreds of millions to the EU is the issue. You are either happy with that or you aren't. We voted and more people wasn't happy.

If the figure was £250 million a week, no ordinary person would think "£350 million wow, but £250 million is nothing, I have that down the back of my sofa."

This was just about a remainer wanting Boris in court and other remainers wanting to fund it. Which has now kicked off leavers doing the same to remainers.

No different to Gina Miller, another remainer trying to pretend it was about democracy while now being a political activist.

Why not just accept we voted to leave and drop all the court cases?

EarthRod

Well, Boris made a mistake in the wording. In addition, a politician of his experience should not have headlined the error on the side of a bus, given he must have known it was incorrect.

What compounds the incorrectness of it all is that it was a main headline to encourage people to vote to leave the EU.

Stupid boy Pike.

Sonic67

See post.

"We give the EU £350 million. We get back a rebate from member states."

Put that on the bus.

weaviemx5

Why the deflection? It’s holding politicians to facts.  

You shared an opinion piece that suited you, I quoted an official statement (linked from the FullFact article shared previously)

Sonic67

And what are "the facts?"
Yes. And you will keep quoting it as it supports your view and the Telegraph article doesn't.

So you need to accept there's different views on it.

Different views isn't "facts." This isn't physics, it's politics and if different articles both makes different views and both are correct then it's just what you think, not "a fact."

weaviemx5

Of course this prosecution is doomed to fail.

Whatever statements it is claimed he has made were in his position as a political campaigner. Not part of his duties as mayor or MP.

Derek S-H

The facts are the financial payments made by the UK to the EU for our membership, both the gross on-paper figure and the net figure we actually send.

raduv1

This is like being in court!

I can't imagine doing this for a living no matter how well paid it is, I'd lose the will to live.

This site needs to add a "yawn" emiticon especially for this Forum. We all know the outcome already - Mods, lock this Thread!

In other news:

Last male Sumatran rhino in Malaysia dies

Meanwhile we can just carry on bickering endlessly about the meaning of "send" and what's the difference between £250 and £350 million.

Good work!

weaviemx5

It was pure spin on a figure and even leavers would ( I hope ) agree on that front . There are spin on all figures from goverment to opposition to get that message accross .

Now though should we hold them all to account or just cherry pick what we need and feel will justify our own needs and opinions .

We can move on this and up it and dig up much more past present and how deep the electorate want to go .