Carillion Liqudiation

DroidSkin

And you have evidence he gave advice in that time and May acted on it? Enki stated he advises her, he hasn’t even been in the job for 13 months. I think it qualifies pretty well as fake news.

The fact she sacked him off, IMO is a credit to her. (And I think she is an awful politician before I get accused of being a fan boy)

krish

Enki got the original details wrong in that he was rather than is an advisor, but fake news is a completely fabricated story. Trump clearly gets it wrong - it's any news he doesn't like. Others get it wrong when a mistake has been made rather than a deliberately manufactured story and they jump on the news outlet with fake news accusations.

You or I have evidence neither one way nor the other over his and May's interactions - nevertheless he was a No 10 advisor for 5 months of her time in office, and you seem intent on implying he didn't advise her, with no proof either.

tapzilla2k

I think the rules were meant to be tightened up so sub contractors get paid in a shorter time frame. Carillion got it's payments from Government every 30 days I believe.

You've missed the point - First you have to work out what the realistic cost of a contract is, then apply that to bids that come in. Otherwise you'll continue with the race to the bottom and more companies like Carillion going under. This might not be an isolated case, an urgent review of government contracts and the companies that hold them needs to be undertaken to look for potential risks.  

If you know anything about Oxfordshire County Council, you'll know it has zero commercial sense.

He was in post for around 6 months before May "sacked him". More likely it was her advisors who sacked him, everything had to be run past those two before May could make a decision apparently.

Anyway I expect this is the first of many smaller companies, possibly going under -
Carillion casualty: landscaper owed £1m that could go bust

krish

oh yeah I forgot about those two unelected ****s, Fiona Hill and Nick Timothy

krish

When I was living in Oxford from 2003-5 there was all the nonsense in Abingdon Road

IronGiant

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krish

I think the road was resurfaced and brand new kerbstones, then it all flooded and the kerbstones were replaced with proper drainage ones ... think they spent a few years on it, and still floods to this day

IronGiant

Ah yes thanks, I was working with some one who lived on Lake Street back then, he wasn't happy to have to wade to work.

Cliff

I think the onus is on the person who made the original statement that he did advise her to back it up.

Right after he backs up that the government ignored expert advice and deliberately chose an ineffective flu vaccine as he also stated.

tapzilla2k

Actually, that is not how contracts are tendered and won. No one on the client side, works out the realistic cost of the contract. A ball park figure yes but that is the whole point of competing contractors. and if there are say five bids you get a good idea of the going rate.
There is a race to get the lowest bid of course and win. But I learnt a good lesson after working on a bid for about 2 months. I was keen to win as it was a whole load of work.
I had to present the bid first to the managing director who evaluated it. After a few hours of questioning he came to the conclusion that the risks were too high and that on balance we could lose money. I was very disappointed of course, but it was a reality lesson. No point in winning if you loose money.

That's what Carillion did. They were so tied up with government departments who I suspect put pressure on to bid low that they lost sight of how to run their own business it collapsed.