Labours ongoing anti semitism row

robel

Apartheid in South Africa was the enforced discrimination by the minority on the majority. They classed its inhabitants into 4, black, white, coloured and indian. Inter marriages were forbidden and blacks were forbidden from living in white areas. Non white political representation was completely abolished. Blacks were deprived of their citizenship, there were segregated public areas and medical care and the services to them was inferior.

That does not take place in Israel.

The 20% or so non Jewish population of Israel have all these rights. Thats why you see Muslims, Christians, Druze, Bahia and others serving in the military, serving in government, serving parliament, running hospitals and more.

Now perhaps you can tell me about how any future Palestinian state will not have a single Israeli living there or that in Jordanian law Jews cannot become citizens or own property? Or many other Arab/Muslim countries who ban Israelis from entering or have actual racist and apartheid laws discriminating against many minorities.

80% or more of Israel speaks Hebrew so the official language is that, just like 100 or more countries around the world. Arabic still has special status and this bill does not affect that in any way.

It enshrines that Israel is a Jewish country, which is what was agreed at the League of Nations in 1922, "a homeland for the Jewish people", nothing has changed, a multitude of countries around the world who proclaim that they are Islamic or Christian and what their official language is and in alot of cases the official religion, although Israel has not said that Judaism is its official religion.

If you really are interested in knowing the facts, you should read up on it...

robel

Whataboutery is never a good defence.

I thought Israel was meant to be better than its neighbours, a true democracy with equal rights for all its citizens?

raduv1

I completely agree with you but context and balance is always missing...

robel

So a law was passed that has no effect on the state and minority of said state .   so then why push it through and pass it ? Why the fuss , why do it , why change it  ? You calling it a nothing burger ?

raduv1

Like I said read up on it, get the whole picture...

EarthRod

Deflection and projection is the latest thing or out huh when one does not agree on a subject . Safe route for the many .

IronGiant

Maybe apartheid is too strong a word, but it does seem the new laws give Israelis a privileged identity above others resident/citizens in the country.

The new laws also give ammunition to those who think Israel is heading in the wrong direction - possibly heading towards another conflict.

Bl4ckGryph0n

Has anyone fully read the internationally accepted definition of Anti-Semitism and the tweaked version by the Labour party?  It seems there is a lot of debate without anyone having fully looked into it.

Bl4ckGryph0n

This post made me look at it again. And it seems you have left something out which is rather important.

The controversial clause that we all, including myself, found unbelievable is actually removed in the agreed version. The Jewish Nation State bill no longer allow one religious group to bar another.

I must admit since that is now out, I can't really see what is so wrong with this law.

springtide

I most definitely looked at it And if I recall correctly it has been discussed before.

The rumours are, when listening to jewish labour representatives, that Corbyn may come out (of hiding, I mean where has he been...) and suggest to go back to the standard definition instead of twisting it. But still with reservation that they may do but in agreement with the Jewish community.

I simply don't get why they feel the need to tweak it.