The rise of socialism

EarthRod

The weakened Tories have had to severely curtail their arrogance and now will have to listen and take note of what the ordinary voting public have to say.

So the Tory manifesto is out the window and Jeremy Corbyn is now finally a main player in opposition in Parliament.

Thank f*** for that.

Years of Tory neglect has nearly ruined the country - big multinational businesses have done well thank you very much, but look at what's happened to the ordinary people and services.

kilvil

there is the problem with your case. its not how much money you have in your pocket, its about what can you buy with that amount of money. no good having an extra pound in your pocket if your shopping cost an extra 10 pounds is it.

IronGiant

@Enki People need to get on the same hymn sheet here, if the Brexit talks collapse then we are doomed, we're all doomed I tells yee (repeat three times to the tune of Jerusalem)

Bl4ckGryph0n

Oh you can forget that, the Corbynites will never sing to the tune of Jerusalem

IronGiant

My father always used to say that the best Government was one with a strong opposition to curtail the worst excesses of the party in charge, preferably combined with your own local government largely controlled by that opposition.  Well I'm not convinced we have a strong opposition, but we have a sufficiently weak party in charge we are pretty much in that scenario.

Edit: Of course the flaw in this set up is you risk getting nothing achieved for 5 years, or 5 months if we are to adopt @krish 's plagiarised joke model

Jezza99

Big multinationals employ thousands of "ordinary people", and invest in the UK. Yes we have heard all the tax dodging arguments, and some of them have merit, but better to have them than not. No country has solved the tax issue, it's just part of globalisation.

krish

the Mexican weather?

Enki

That's genuinely funny that's made me chuckle for a day,  poem come song about dark skinned teenager Jesus from the middle east walking bare foot across the Green grassed hills of England. Blake is often described as bonkers...

Sonic67

Letter to a young Corbynista | The Spectator

But in any case, we do know this: every single truly socialist country has been an economic failure. Its people have become poorer than those in capitalist countries. The aim of socialism has been to improve the lot of the poor but the result has always been that the poor have done worse than they would have done under a capitalist economy. To care about the poor is to care about the preservation of capitalism.

We have the advantage of two natural experiments: Germany and Korea were both divided into a socialist and a capitalist half. As time went by, the differences in the economic conditions of the poor in both countries became stark. On the socialist side of Korea there has been mass starvation. (The same happened, incidentally, in the Soviet Union and China.) On the socialist side of Germany, the average wage was lower than unemployment benefit on the capitalist side.

Pacifico

It doesn't matter how many times Socialism fails there will always be another generation along who see it as the answer.

Bit like 70's fashion that keeps coming back.