Voter Fraud?

tapzilla2k

It's likely been watered down as we don't have a national ID card scheme that's available to all voters either for free or for a minimal cost. Passports are expensive things and have to be renewed every decade, so you run the risk of disenfranchising voters who are either waiting for a new passport to arrive after sending off the renewal forms or the passport expires just as an election takes place.  

It would probably work in a similar fashion to applying for a passport, the Government has enough data on all of us to work out who has the right to vote. It's collating that data into a national database which prevented Nu Labour's ID card plans from coming to fruition and it would present similar problems again. But it's not an insurmountable problem.

At the moment, voter fraud rates are low. So I don't think we need to provide anything more than a polling card or other items of ID. Besides as I pointed out in the other thread, how do you go about checking people's right to vote who want to use a postal vote ? You have to keep in mind that not everyone will be able bodied and thus able to get to a local council office to get documents checked. You'd have to send people out to check before a postal voting form is issued and that could delay the usual 6 weeks time frame from a General Election being called to it actually happening.

Sonic67

You don't need photo ID to work with kids. Just need to prove who you are and where you live. A birth certificate is enough with utility bills.
No one is taking postal votes away. If nothing else that in part helps prove where you live. They need to send it to you.

Sonic67

A utility bill helps proves where you live. I guess British gas knows you regularly pay them money.

It isn't enough on its own. It helps back up other forms of ID.

Sonic67

Should voting fraud be ignored to suit Simone?
Why isn't Simone and you taking note of this bit?

"What if I cannot provide any of the ID listed above?"

Just fancy arguing the toss with your made up people?

Unfortunately Shannon's head of the family likes to apply for postal votes for all the family, gets the letters, fills them in as he sees fit and then posts them off.

One consequence of Labour making the postal vote so easy.

Take that up with Labour. Also see above. I did the links earlier. Judge, postal vote fraud etc.

Sonic67

Tower Hamlets again. Who knew?

Clampdown to stop vote fraud in scandal-hit Tower Hamlets

The Standard was shown the “intense scrutiny” each postal ballot must go through to ensure they are genuine. Just over 31,000 postal votes were sent out in Tower Hamlets, with a warning that they should only be filled out by the addressee.

This month, the Standard revealed 39 new allegations in Tower Hamlets of corruption in the run-up to next month’s elections, including complaints of bribery, forgery and ballot tampering.

Hopefully a clamp down on this means Simone gets a vote. Providing she also meets TBs vote credentials and is smart enough to understand all the issues involved etc.

rancidpunk

I appreciate that it can back up other forms of ID, but not in the case of voter fraud. If you have access to the polling card, you're just as likely to have access to another form of ID at the same address. Without photo ID then there's nothing to prove you are who it says on the polling card.

rancidpunk

When Simon became Simone, with kids, I was thinking that gender reassignment surgery has come on leaps and bounds.

IronGiant

Quite seriously though, being transgender does present issues in those countries where Photo ID is required to vote because they don't necessarily match their photos while transitioning.  (Amazing what you can learn simply by searching on "photo ID and voting").

Bl4ckGryph0n

Biometric ID's...mine has 10 digit prints embedded...Those on a Visa in this country have them as well, as do those with remain to leave. Welcome to the 21st century

Sonic67

No one is saying this is perfect. Hence running a trial etc. At least this would stop some things.

For instance in the past a letter went to houses asking how many were there and you could say "six," with only two physically there. You apply for a postal vote for all and then have a vote for all.

At least this means a bit more of a check that the people exist.