The Supreme Court Party

SteakAndCake

The system isn't designed for the best of times, it's designed for the worst of times.  Read up on Hitler's Enabling act that the Reichstag voted for and enabled him to act afterwards without parliamentary approval.  The point is, one system (parliamentary majority) might not be enough to prevent damaging abuse of power.  The more checks and balances, the slower legislation proceeds but it blunts and frustrates extremist or radical policy.

SteakAndCake

If you really want to see why such a system is necessary, simply cast your gaze stateside and watch the system try to contain Trump.  How many times as the Supreme Court overturned his idiocy?

tapzilla2k

Not only did charging fees for employment tribunals break UK and EU law, it broke a pretty fundamental cornerstone of our Democracy. Specifically Magna Carta - “We will sell to no man, we will not deny or defer to any either Justice or Right”. That part of Magna Carta specifically Chapter 29 (King Edward I version 1297) is still on the statute books. And no it does not ban court fees, it bans the use of charging money as means to control who can and can't access justice.

Jezza99

Well it's not working very well then. As we have seen recently with the Charlie Gard case, where the parents were fortunate to have lawyers willing to work pro bono for them, otherwise they would have had no access to justice due to lack of money.

As for the tribunal fees being against EU law, who cares. If it is against UK law, then the law needs changing. Tribunals decreased by 70% after the charge was brought in, even though a successful claimant pays nothing. It has reopened the door to vexatious claims, and will benefit no one but the chancers and the lawyers.

SteakAndCake

But if you have no money, how can you afford to proceed with a tribunal?  Lawyers won't work for nothing but a promise of payment *if* you win.  So you have to have enough savings to cover this cost in addition to having enough to float you until you land a new job.

Greg Hook

There is a reason for the decrease. Claimants have to pay the fees up front. When you are not earning a lot, that is an outlay that puts a lot off.

Jezza99

Slightly off topic, but the Appeal Courts are now ruling on the odious Human Rights Act, which is being used by the Rochdale grooming gang to fight deportation on the grounds that it would infringe their "right to family life". Obviously they are keen on family, having raped so many schoolgirls.

Incorporating this legislation into UK law was one of the most damaging things that Labour has ever inflicted on this country, and they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

Three Girls paedophile gang leader 'Daddy' fighting deportation

Jezza99

Come off it, it's only a Grand max, anyone can lay their hands on that if they need to.

Greg Hook

Ah the old post a funny rating when someone does one on yours trick. Nice one, very mature.

Jezza99

About as mature as rating a post "funny" out of pure sarcasm.