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Beginning of the end of the Labour Party?

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26-11-2019 03:21:26 Mobile | Show all posts
74% lib dem, 66% labour, 48% tories.
First two seem about right, thought Tory would be a bit higher. Seems I'm more in tune with SNP, UKIP and the British Nationals!
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26-11-2019 03:21:26 Mobile | Show all posts
Selective quoting gives "You're Right Wing "    
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26-11-2019 03:21:27 Mobile | Show all posts
Rubbish or not, it is a little bit of fun. Although I feel a little sad I'm not more aligned with Liberal Democrats. So an interesting comparison would be whether conservative in this country matches liberal in another country including other comparisons.
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26-11-2019 03:21:27 Mobile | Show all posts
It's meaningless though- the Labour policy exchange (I hesitate to use the term 'Manifesto') has plenty of admirable things in it but it seems that quite apart from my own views, the public has pretty much no faith in their ability to implement any of it.
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26-11-2019 03:21:28 Mobile | Show all posts
If I took on board everything I've been called in politics discussions of recent months I'd be an extreme right, but left, winger who's a socialist, liberal elitist remoaner who is only concerned about the rich corporate working class, especially as I'm a May loving Corbynista.

Edit: I forgot snowflake as well
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26-11-2019 03:21:29 Mobile | Show all posts
Snowflake is a term not worthy to be used by anyone.
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26-11-2019 03:21:30 Mobile | Show all posts
No two are the same.
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26-11-2019 03:21:31 Mobile | Show all posts
So do we take this as Labour conceding defeat already and only trying to compete with the Lib Dems for 2nd place?

I can't really interpret it any other way, we'll have had nearly 12months of 'hard brexit or no brexit' warnings coming from the EU by the time the election comes around, what on earth are they thinking?


It would scrap Theresa May's Brexit plan - outlined in a White Paper in February - which envisages leaving the single market and customs union.

Instead, it will focus on delivering a deal which "retains the benefits" of single market and customs union membership.

On immigration, a Labour government would on its first day in office guarantee the legal status of the three million EU nationals living in the UK to correct what it says is a "shameful injustice".


If Hull West (amongst at least a dozen or so others in the North/North East) doesn't now go to the Conservatives it will be going to UKIP instead. The day after UKIP announce that they won't be fighting anybody in Brexit constituencies, Labour effectively announce they're gonna fight the Lib Dems in Remain constituencies?

Weird.
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26-11-2019 03:21:32 Mobile | Show all posts
Corbyn keeps losing the plot. Several times now he has come out with a statement in a general election campaign speech which is later corrected or contradicted by the Labour Party Executive or Campaign Chief.

Labour are working hard in their campaign and it wouldn't surprise me if later polls show an erosion of the huge Tory lead as more people drift to the Labour camp and also the LibDem teepee.

I suppose it's unlikely the results of the general election will end up with the Tories holding about the same number of seats as they do now. That would mean holding a general election was a complete waste of time and effort; the dung would most certainly hit the fan - the Tories will be in disarray despite still holding a majority.
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26-11-2019 03:21:34 Mobile | Show all posts
That doesn't seem a likely outcome right now to be honest. As yet, none of the carefully accrued material on Corbyn has been used yet.
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