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Beginning of the end of the Labour Party?

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26-11-2019 03:21:35 Mobile | Show all posts
Or the shadow defence secretary.

Daily Politics, 24/04/2017

Five minutes onwards.

If polls were to translate into seats.

Labour facing election wipeout as polls suggest Tory majority of up to 150
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26-11-2019 03:21:37 Mobile | Show all posts
I hope Labour or LibDem get something going to oppose the Tory Party. The last time the Tories ended up with a huge majority we ended up with Margaret Thatcher - not a problem for her first term, but the arrogance and resulting devastation of deregulation, privatisation, poll tax and war with the miners left a lot to be desired during the second and particularly her third term in office.

Do not want to see that sort of belligerent and rough-shod methods of politics again.
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26-11-2019 03:21:38 Mobile | Show all posts
What was wrong with the war with the miners?

The miners were attempting to hold the country to ransom and bring down our elected government.  It was a bloody good thing that the government broke them.

Reregulation and privatisation under Thatcher seems to have been a raging success too.  Living standards, home ownership and share ownership increased dramatically under Thatcher.
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26-11-2019 03:21:39 Mobile | Show all posts
Was MI5 surveillance and mobilisation of the Met absolutely required? Thatcher acted more like her mate Pinochet here.
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26-11-2019 03:21:39 Mobile | Show all posts
At least there's not much she left to damage after asset stripping the country.....other than the NHS!
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26-11-2019 03:21:40 Mobile | Show all posts
Damned right it was required.

It was an illegal strike, supported by violence and intimidation against those that wanted to work, attempting to bring down an elected government.
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26-11-2019 03:21:41 Mobile | Show all posts
Given the level of violence, intimidation and even murder that occured are you suggesting that using the Met was wrong?
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26-11-2019 03:21:42 Mobile | Show all posts
Bearing in mind the thread title, how weirdly on-topic has this conversation just gone! hehe
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26-11-2019 03:21:43 Mobile | Show all posts
It wasn't simply a black and white, good vs bad issue ... regardless of the strike's illegality, there was the big picture of the future of mining communities with the announcement of the closure of 20 collieries with the loss of 20,000 jobs. The govt branded Scargill a liar when he claimed they actually planned to close 70, but we now know he wasn't, after the release of cabinet papers showing Thatcher's NCB hatchet man MacGregor planned to close 75.

You appear to have sympathy or sentimentality now when the world is moving on, but not then?
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