Beginning of the end of the Labour Party?

Pacifico

I keep wondering how much worse it can get for Labour - and then some new disaster happens...

pandemic

I'd expect Labour MPs vote inline with their respective constituencies, so London based MPs will go against the whip.
The three line whip imo is completely unnecessary, the article 50 vote will go through irrespective of the whip. All this unnecessary press could have been avoided by avoiding the 3 line whip decision, but in Corbyn strange world he probably thinks this is good press.

The Dude

I read in the Times? today that Labour had some polling done and discovered people are more attached to their EU vote than their party and the 3 line whip was as a result of this information..

IronGiant

I find it difficult to fault him for this, he's effectively said he won't contest the will of the people,  I hope he has a plan post Article 50 though otherwise he's handed it to May on a plate.

The Dude

Yeah he's called this one right, leaders gotta lead and theres only one positive approach for the party. Theres a good chance theyre gonna lose stoke to UKIP I think, that will bring most of the rebels back in line i would have thought?

The Dude

The Labour selection for Stoke apparently sums up the magic 8 ball politics coming from the party currently. One of the highest brexit votes in the land and they put up a hardcore remainer? against the UKIP leader.. Perhaps its some kind master stroke and they're hoping to gift the seat to UKIP or the tories, making the libs even less relevant nationally by making brexit smoother, then Labour can pinch the seat back at the next GE post brexit?

It must be something along those 2 lines as nothing else seems to make sense?

Enki

These resignation seem very orderly and appear well timed in the news cycle. Siddiq had no choice considering her constituency feelings on Europe and simarly for Tulip ( edit-Stevens), the Cardiff areas voted remain despite Wales voting leave.  Now Corbyn looks tough to those other Labour areas that voted leave and resigning MPs are in step with their constituents. Take note Thersa May, this seems to be another one of those plans....

Sonic67

How can I tiptoe round this? Tulip Siddiq is one person.

Enki

Oh well, I meant Stevens the point still carries, I may just survive my day yet...

Cliff

Corbyn does not exactly have a clean record when it comes to voting against the Party whip.
So can he complain? Can he sack people with looking like a hypocrite?
Or are you allowed to change your spots when you become leader?

This is the number of times he voted against the whip.

1997: 64 – the most rebellious Labour MP

2001: 148 – the most rebellious Labour MP

2005: 216 – the most rebellious Labour MP

2010: 62 – 3rd most rebellious Labour MP
In other words, whilst Labour was in government, Corbyn was consistently the most rebellious Labour MP, rebelling a total of 428 times.

Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour whip