why is there so much hatred for Corbyn?

raduv1

I can't really hate on JC as he is what he is and does not ( mostly ) hide from his past and what he stands for then as a backbencher and now as leader of his party .

It is to backward 70s focused step in time for me though on nationalisation and a morbid focus on rich vs poor in class war divide. Judging by their taxing policy  it is not worth ones time in further education or bettering oneself as a Labour goverment will tax you for your efforts. So as such we should live off the state under a Labour goverment? Am I right 45% tax over 80k , 50% over 123k ?

Sonic67

Labour's praise for Venezuela.

A country brought down by widespread nationalisation of private industry, currency and price controls, and fiscally irresponsible expansion of welfare programs.

                               
BBC News - Venezuela: All you need to know about the crisis in nine charts
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Venezuela crisis - in nine charts                                                                                                        Discontent fuelled by hyperinflation, power cuts and food and medicine shortages have led to a political crisis in Venezuela. What's going on?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                www.bbc.co.uk

Gunner Nick44

Corbyn gets my vote as well. The anti-Semitism is an orchestrated smear campaign, which if you researched this issue you'd see that Corbyn has been an anti racist campaigner all of his life. The bottom line is Corbyn is critical of the Israeli government and the oppression of the Palestinian people. Israel continually break international law by stealing more and more land off the Palestinians, don't take just my word for it as the U.N have condemned them over this, along with their building of Israeli settlements. Also human rights abuses have been committed where Palestinian protestors have had their limbs blown off by snipers and many Palestinians have lost their lives. Israel has a right to exist, but they should move their border back to where it was in 1967, along with giving back the Golan Heights to Syria. One of my close friends Zac is Jewish and he's very critical of Israel and backs Corbyn to the hilt. And it is correct that Corbyn spoke to the IRA to try and bring about peace and an end to the troubles, it's frankly absurd for people to seriously suggest he supports terrorism when he's always been anti war and a pacifist. Labour's policies actually appeal to the majority of people in this country, and people should read their manifesto rather than getting their information by the right wing press or Rupert Murdoch. People should seriously look around at what's happening in this country, because more and more people are becoming homeless, whereas many others are getting poorer and needing food banks to get by, many of them are people in work but on low pay. Corbyn will not take the country back to the 1960's or 70's, and his policies prove that if people actually took the time to research them. Corbyns policies are more based on a Scandinavian model like Norway or Sweden, not Venezuela or 1960's communist Russia.

Voting for Boris Johnson means more poverty, more inequality, more homelessness, more wealth for the rich (many of whom have already amassed a sickening amount of money as it is), our NHS being sold off to Trump, more of our freedoms and rights taking away along with more surveillance. Tory austerity has been absolutely brutal and created so much pain and suffering for millions of people, it has to stop. 130,000 people are dead and it's all linked to brutal Tory austerity and our public services like NHS and Police Force have either been massively underfunded or suffered devastating cuts. It's ok the Tories trying to get more Police officers now, but they cut them in the first place by 21,000 officers, hence why we saw a huge rise in crime. Anyone who wants to vote Tory is only thinking about themselves in my opinion, because they much either be rich or at least comfortable and do not give a damn about those who are poor and really struggling. We have stagnant wages and millions of people in insecure work, like agency or zero hours work. Yes zero hours contracts have their place, but they're not ideal for everyone. We also have a massive housing crisis, and we need a government to build more council houses. Also I'm struggling like hell to get my daughter through University like thousands of other parents. Also, being half Jamaican I'll never forgive the Tories for their appalling treatment of the Windrush generation, people like my father have made a massive contribution to this country. Then there's their callous treatment of the Grenfell residents as well. This Tory government has no compassion or humanity for other people, and they made me sick to the stomach to be honest. They're only interested in looking after the rich and privileged, they always have done.

The only people who have to worry about Corbyn are the millionaire and billionaire tax avoiders who have their money hidden offshore in countries like the Cayman Islands. The warmongering elite who seem intent on destroying middle eastern countries so they can steal their resources like oil should also be worried, because Corbyn knows that these wars have long term devastating consequences and need to be stopped. These recent wars are based on lies and are only being committed to serve corporate interests, I just wish more people could see this.

Gunner Nick44

Vote Liberal you get Tory, haven't you looked at Jo Swinson's voting record?......It's absolutely appalling. Plus this is a woman who voted with the Tories on more policies than Michael Gove and Jeremy Hunt.
                                                http://camdennewjournal.com/article/so-you-want-to-vote-for-the-lib-dems               

Gunner Nick44

You fail to mention the brutal sanctions that's been inflicted on the Venezuelan government by the United States, I doubt it's got nothing to do with them being an oil rich country though eh?......No Maduro isn't a perfect leader, but to blame all of Venezuela's problems on him is incredibly disingenuous.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Media Rebuttal: Why is there a blackout on John Bolton’s Venezuela oil grab remarks?                                                                                                        CommonSpace looks at The BBC, The Guardian and the New York Times’ coverage of the latest US sanctions on Venezuela, and finds that obvious lines of inquiry about US motivations for the new sanctions have been missed out entirely THE latest development in the Venezuela crisis has seen the US...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                www.commonspace.scot

Gunner Nick44

So you wouldn't send your child to a good school if you can afford it?.......I think most people would. And the communist nonsense is ridiculous, but again I bet you've never ever read Labours manifesto, because if you had you'd see their policies are not extreme in the slightest, as they're based on social democracies such as Norway and Sweden.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Jeremy Corbyn – a mainstream [Scandinavian] social democrat                                                                                                        If there is such a thing as a ‘best practice approach’ in public policy the Nordic model would probably be it and, at any measure, a useful benchmark for Britain to move towards. First published on September 19, 2016.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                www.opendemocracy.net                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Jeremy Corbyn, Old School Socialist? Or Scandinavian Style Progressive?                                                                                                        Jeremy Corbyn is coming to a town near you and he's eating human babies. Once he's finished devouring the nation's infants he'll crash the entire economy, close the banks and light bonfires piled high with savers' cash, just because he can.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                www.huffingtonpost.co.uk                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                So how many of Jeremy Corbyn's policies do you actually disagree with?                                                                                                        A London School of Economics study into how Jeremy Corbyn is represented in the media found that only a paltry 11% of all newspaper art...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com

Sonic67

Aah, like The Guardian.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Will the Guardian now investigate its own tax arrangements? | Coffee House                                                                                                        Something odd happened at the Guardian on Monday as the paper’s editorial staff were basking in the glow of their just-published splash about the Panama papers. They were understandably excited…                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                blogs.spectator.co.uk                                                                               
First, they either didn’t know or had forgotten about the Guardian Media Group’s use of a tax-exempt shell company in the Cayman Islands to avoid paying corporation tax when it sold its 50 per cent holding in Auto Trader to Apax Partners in 2008 (hat tip to Guido Fawkes). Further, they were similarly ignorant about the hundreds of millions GMG has invested in offshore hedge funds over the years. But that seems unlikely.

Sonic67

I didn't mention the US as I'm not left wing enough and they aren't the problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                What's behind Venezuela's political crisis?                                                                                                        A closer look at what is behind the country's spiralling political and economic crisis.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                www.bbc.com                                                                               
During his first term, the economy went into freefall and many Venezuelans blame him and his socialist government for the country's decline.

Aj33

I realise this is the Corbyn thread however, where Corbyn goes the puppet master McDonnell follows.

There is a self confessed Marxist. Where has Marxism got anyone? It’s always led to ruin. Who does it hit hardest? the people it professes to help.

Sonic67