Keeping up with the latest Brexit News

Sonic67

So you admit people really want to leave the EU. What does that tell you about the EU?
I doubt you understand how much the EU takes a countries sovereignty.

EarthRod

However, no doubt you do.

Did you ease their ignorance or leave them in a state of bliss?

The Dude

Indeed.

weaviemx5

Not sure you read the rest of that post before jumping on the line about people, "wanting to leave the EU".  Specifically, the part about people blindly calling for it without actually knowing why.

However, out of genuine interest, could you explain to me how the EU takes my country's sovereignty and how I will see a change when we take it back?

IronGiant

Says more about the circles you move in than anything else I'm afraid

EarthRod

Sovereignty is the full right and power of a governing body over itself, without any interference from outside sources or bodies.

The EU's powers to make and enforce laws and issue directives has a bearing on the UK's sovereignty. In other words the UK is constrained in its governing actions by the agreements it has entered into and laws made under the EU Treaties. The EU's laws override UK's laws.

So the bureaucratic organisation in Brussels governs UK laws, not parliament.

Bl4ckGryph0n

Sometimes you got to be romantic and just follow your heart. I just knew I wanted to marry my wife at the time, couldn't fully rationally explain why, had plenty of other good opportunities. But I knew I just had to follow my heart, and you make it work...

We will make it work and will prevail.

weaviemx5

Thanks for the confirmation of what I've previously read elsewhere.  I've also read statements around immigration etc suggesting that the UK Government is free to enforce more stringent immigration rules but chooses not too rather than being forced to by the EU.  Are there any strong examples where the EU has overruled UK laws/Government?

That's a beautiful statement and, in the case of personal relationships, I would agree wholeheartedly.  However, this is something that impacts an entire country and generations to come (including my own children) so I'd rather have something more behind the decision than following a hunch.  Again, out of my own interest, are you also as passionate for your home country to leave the EU or just the UK?  I understand if you'd rather not answer, just something that I've asked other people I work with (I work for a global multi-national with a cross-section of nationalities) and have never really got a straight answer to.

The Dude

Mindless remainers only voted remain because they were told to by the Government and the City.


See how easy that was?

Bl4ckGryph0n

No that is fine

I'd like to see the Netherlands leave the EU as well., absolutely. And I think that if the opposition wasn't so Trump like at the time of the election I think it would have been a very different outcome. in their election and referendum. Likewise I do a lot of work in Poland, and most people there can't believe the UK remained in for so long, they want out the moment they are no longer a beneficiary but become a net contributor...