1400 cases child abuse -Rotherham

roygbiv6

Great post.

Ironically the bit in bold could very easily describe this forum. Very sad state of affairs and I cant really see things changing for the better in my lifetime. I have a young family and the best thing I can do for them, I have realised, is get them out of this country before it descends further.

johntheexpat

Why do you think anywhere else is better?

Sonic67

More from Rotherham:

BBC News - South Yorkshire Police officer on 15-year-old girl sex charge

Naqv

I agree with your last statement, as I can't explain why it was allowed to go on for so long.  If the authorities came down hard straight away, it would never have got to this stage.

btw These days, the "muslim" girls as you descibe them are no different to anyone else in their behaviour.

A family memember is a clinical psychologist working within the education system, dealing with vulnerable children.  She works in the inner city and has seen cases of sexual abuse/grooming concering all types of children, but the majority are muslim/pakistani or Sikh (inner Birmingham) by men who have a VERY similar profile to the ones caught, i.e. taxi drivers, drug dealers.

roygbiv6

It's a good question. I've lived in France, Holland & China before and for me they were all better places to live - especially when kids come into the equation. Everything is in the eye of the beholder of course. I've spent a lot of time this year in Holland and Germany as I am seeing how viable it will be to move my business to either of them with a view to living there and it is inescapable how much better the quality of life is there for the average person.

Most of western Europe has been saddled with mass immigration but I feel that other countries in the region are better equipped or more willing to stand up to it.

tapzilla2k

Reading the report it seems as though being Politically Correct was more important than tackling the abuse across the agencies and police involved. The managers and Councillors also appeared to more worried about that status if the details of the abuse came to light.

Grooming gangs are still prowling around Oxford, though the local authorities are trying to tackle the problem. Questions still haven't been answered as to why the gang they did catch and convict were allowed to operate for so long. The other question is - What have the Police done to try and trace those men who paid the gangs to have sex with the underage girls ? I'm willing to bet they are men of various racial backgrounds. There is a lot of money to be made out of grooming children to be abused by pedophiles. My worry is that they bust grooming gangs but not those who supply the drugs and weapons. There probably is an organized crime element to all of this.

It's a rather dangerous misconception people have. I know of at least one muslim girl who had enough of her dad raging at her western values that she upped sticks and moved away without telling anyone where she went.

Pedophiles are adept at hiding in various cultures and in cases like this taking advantage of political correctness in regards to racism to stay under the radar and carry out their abuse. I think in general we've had our heads in the sand about Child sex abuse for far too long now and getting hung up on one specific kind of pedophile gang is a tad unwise and dangerous for Children of all communities and faiths. Again as I've said before it's why we need a properly funded and setup national inquiry with powers to go where it needs to go, even if it leads to Westminster.

pragmatic

Well that sounds like a story of successful integration.

pragmatic

I agree excepting the bit in bold, I wouldn't say people are getting hung up on it.  This is not happening at the neglect of 'other kinds of paedophile gang', but we have evidence and obvious outrage, an almost equal amount is being directed at those in power as to the gang members.

alexw3

Umm Holland and germany both have roughly the same number of immigrants as a % of the population as we do.

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_OFFPUB/KS-SF-11-034/EN/KS-SF-11-034-EN.PDF

The reason they have a higher quality of life for the average person is because those nations are more designed for the benefit of the masses vs the elites as compared to the UK.

Namely, they don't try and pen the masses into cities and large towns, and they are much more equal countries (GINI coefficients - Germany : 0.295, Netherlands : 0.294,  UK : 0.345).

tapzilla2k

This is a must read about abuse and the culture of shame -
The untold story of how a culture of shame perpetuates abuse. I know, I was a victim | Society | The Guardian