Anne Marie Morris MP (Conservative) - Stay or Go?

rustybin

We get the goverment we deserve. When you have people making excuses for elected officials and saying they shouldn't lose their jobs for things which would see most public/private sector workers sacked, you're bringing their shame onto yourself.

I wouldn't want to get my teeth seen to by a Dentist whose secretary used that kind of language, I certainly wouldn't want my country run by such a person.

Ruperts slippers

It's even worse when an MP uses that language because they are supposed to represent all their constituents equally, not just the ones that don't hide in woodpiles.

rustybin

Really?  You'd be sacked for a first offence?  No due process, no verbal or written warnings, just fired and gone?

I'll say again, there was no actual discrimination here.

Good to see the virtue signallers out in force over this.

rancidpunk

Gross misconduct. Almost certainly yes... Suspension, investigation and then probably asked to resign or simply contract terminated.

Let's remember, they're are 60 odd million people in this country. Every election we get people lining up to be MPs. Why do we need to tolerate this idiocy?

I can almost understand defending some moronic footballer for being a moron - their skill set is pretty unique.

What does this woman deliver which makes her so indispensable that she should be given another chance?

Bl4ckGryph0n

Leave it to the voters to decide whether she is fit to represent them.

In a real job, you'd go thru due process including verbal and written warnings.  The chance of being directly dismissed for something that didn't involve any actual discrimination is remote.

Toko Black

From the ACAS code of conduct on disciplinary procedures.

19. Where misconduct is confirmed or the employee is found to be performing unsatisfactorily it is usual to give the employee a written warning. A further act of misconduct or failure to improve performance within a set period would normally result in a final written warning.

20. If an employee’s first misconduct or unsatisfactory performance is sufficiently serious, it may be appropriate to move directly to a final written warning. This might occur where the employee’s actions have had, or are liable to have, a serious or harmful impact on the organisation.

I don't believe this amounts to gross misconduct.  Yet again, there was no actual discrimination.

rustybin

I agree in principle with your premise, but this, will be hard in the current climate to ignore, this situation will be another tool to undermine TM position, the cons have too much going on for this to be brushed under the carpet, it wont go away easily, is it worth the hassle.

Sonic67

I might get away with with a warning and training, but it's unlikely. It would depend on the context. But there's a good chance my role would become untenable.

But my point is WHY should she get away with it? What does she deliver that makes that kind of behaviour tolerable?

rustybin

Exactly. This wasn't behind closed doors, it was in the public eye and recorded by the press. If I used that term, when in an official capacity at work and in front of the public, I'd be fearing the worst. I'd also be incredibly stupid and not fit for my position to even consider it as part of my vocabulary.

Bl4ckGryph0n

Absolutely, hence I said that I hope the suspension is just part of that process. The proper process must be followed as without it there is an increased change this person gets away with it.

Hmmmm, sorry but I strongly disagree...The N word has no place in our society by itself, but to me in context of phrase it was used actually makes it a lot worse. In my opinion...