Volkswagen Scirocco or Honda type R?

tony kop77

Some nice cars there in the list and your sons car looks nice I will maybe have to make a bigger shortlist lol. I was only going to look at type r or scirocco 2.0 tdi 210bhp

zeppelino

Are you sure about the 210bhp diesel? I don’t think it came with that engine in that tune.

If you’re looking at petrol type R v diesel Scirocco then you’re really comparing apples and oranges.

tony kop77

Sorry my mistake I didn't mean to put diesel I meant petrol and your right there isn't a diesel VW in that tune. I have always had petrol car

AMc

I have a 2 litre Mark V Golf GTi.  I did a lot of comparison in that bracket and went for the GTi because it is smooth and comfortable but has loads of power in all revs - much more than the A3 I drove or the Alpha Guiletta.  I sat in the equivalent Civic R but it felt a lot smaller inside and I need to drive my kid and parents about so 5 seats sometimes.
The Scirocco is basically the same car as the Golf - I don't see any advantage other than looks but I would definitely test drive a GTi and a Scirocco with the 2lt turbo - it's a great engine.

tony kop77

I was looking to spend around £7500 but looks like I need to spend around 11k if I want heated seats and low mileage. I just wanted most of it off without finance really but I do tend to keep the cars for 5 years to be fair

AMc

You can look at the other VAG group cars the same size spec - the Seat Leon, Octavia and A3 are all similar.
I've had my mark V for about 5 years - bought for just over £10K.  Not much gone wrong with it apart from a new ABS ECU which was pricey.  I wouldn't be scared of going a bit older for a tidy VW.
Mine has leather and heated seats, I spent £70 to get cruise retro fitted which was well worth it.  It's basically a new stalk with the buttons and tell the car it's there

tony kop77

Are the scirocco engines reliable then and I shouldn't let mileage put me off? I do like their shape must admit. I could always get a loan and get one for around 11k just wanted to have no loans etc now I am getting older
I did like Honda olbjt people saying to me you had that for 5 years try something new

AMc

I can only tell you my experience with the 2.0 TFSI in my Golf GTi.
I bought it with 50K and it's about to hit 100K 5 years or so later including a road trip holiday to Pamplona, Brussles and another to Avignon.  It ate miles all day and I didn't feel ruined when we arrived after 7-8 hours behind the wheel.

I've had an issue with a misfiring injector which was cured by switching to super when I can and adding redex fuel injector treatment to the tank when it isn't possible.  That basically cleaned with injector without taking it apart - apparently a fiddly job.

I had a fuel line leak which was fixed with a new filter and a bit of care from my mechanic.

The only serious problem was the ABS ECU triggered a fault code, that was unfixable by a specialist so had to be replaced and the replacement wouldn't recode so had to go to the main dealer. Best part of a grand.  Left a bitter taste as it was shortly after a recall software upgrade for the same unit but all cars have electronics these days so I'm not holding that against it.

I test drove the A3 2.0T which is the same engine - plenty of guts but the suspension and brakes weren't as good - perhaps because it wasn't an S-Line.
I'd definitely consider the Seat Leon FR and the Octavia VRS if you are in that area.  Don't know if Seat still do the Cupra - which looked like fun.  Not much else on the same VAG platform has the body shape of the sirocco but then I don't want a 2 door hatchback.

If I had the money now I'd switch to the Golf R but the GTi puts a smile on my face most days

tony kop77

Thank you I appreciate your reply definitely helpful and I think I will spend more than I was going to. I will borrow 5k over 5 years and put my own money towards a car and get something around 10k as I keep my cars for 5 years and I spend around 40 hours or slightly more a month in a car doing 200 miles a week so want something fun and reliable  
Golf is another option I just like scirocco however I might end up not liking it once I have tried it as I might find it too cramped and go for a golf or something. I won't know until I try it out. I appreciate your help guys I don't know much about cars

wokeye

I'd have the Civic.  I've owned an EP3 the one before the FN2, it was bulletproof, better can than what I've read about the later car which is bloated, rear beam suspension as opposed to independent, and hardly anymore power than the lighter EP3 Type R.

I've always had Japanese cars, but a change of job and company cars, I have ended up with German cars.  They are ok, the two that I have so far (E-Class 2017 Estate 220D and 2018 Golf GTD).  The Golf is way better than the Merc, which was no fun at all.  The Golf is still not as raw as an EP3, the steering is pretty disconnected to me.  I had a Mk3 MX5 before that though, you could feel everything with that.  I just don't think German cars are worth the premium they command, the branding means nothing to me personally.  

From a private buyers point of view I'd get the Honda, I just think it will be more reliable