Brexit Party 'Fastest growing Political Force'

Toko Black

I think this is way off topic for the thread but, from the same report you quoted;

“Despite the UK’s relative high level of funding, there is evidence that UK schools face resource challenges and face some key challenges more keenly than countries with lower expenditure levels. 44 per cent of UK students are taught in schools in which the headteacher reports that inadequate infrastructure, such as poor quality buildings and grounds, hinders performance at least to ‘some extent’. This is far above the OECD average of 35 per cent. Most UK headteachers also report difficulty in filling teacher vacancies. For example, the Trends in International Maths and Science Study (TIMSS), shows that 61 per cent of Year 9 maths pupils in England are taught in schools that have difficulty in filling maths vacancies, with a quarter taught in schools that find it ‘very difficult’ to fill these vacancies. This compares to an international average of just 15 per cent and 5 per cent respectively, with some countries, including Singapore and Hong Kong, having no pupils taught maths in schools that are finding it very difficult to recruit maths teachers.”

Maybe being the 6th highest funding isn’t the end of the issue?

weaviemx5

Never said it was.

Just that we are not "massively underfunded".

Pacifico

It was your stock manifesto response to another poster asking why the Government isn’t dealing with more pressing items, including the situation where some teachers are having to buy school supplies themselves.  

I’m just quoting the report you linked to that suggests having the sixth highest funding doesn’t mean that schools don’t have resource challenges or inadequate infrastructure.

Toko Black

Nope.

In real terms it has fallen since 2013 (it started falling in 2012 through to 2017).
It rose slightly in 2018 from 2017, but still on a downward trend from and including 2012 (2011 was the peak.

It has risen in nominal terms since 2013, but even in nominal terms it is grew slightly in 2014 and 2015 only to drop and stagnate in 2016/2017.
Since 2013 was the lowest funding since 2009 and down on 2011 and 2012, it's hardly surprising you picked that year

                                                                                 
                                                                       

Pacifico

Dont be daft - Table 1.13

rustybin

Just shows you can't read

Table 1.13 is in nominal, not real terms.

try table 1.14 ...

Toko Black

Pressing issues like health, where the government is starting the biggest sustained increase in funding ever? Even though brexit is apparently completely stopping them doing anything.

And you can keep on banging on about schools and I will continue to point out that the 6th highest spending and being above the OECD average for percentage of GDP is not "massively underfunded".

maddy

Whilst you're right that we have the 6th highest spending, it's also true that that doesn't mean they're excellent as a result so simply repeating the same point appears largely irrelevant in the bigger pitcure.  The issue is where that spending is going and what spending is actually required.

With regards to the NHS funding, have you got any details of how the budget promise is actually being implemented?

piston broke

And for the umpteenth time, I'm simply countering the statement made that education was "massively underfunded". It isn't.

Google is your friend if you really want to know.

Amongst other things, recruiting 20k additional support staff for GP surgeries.

BBC News - The GP substitute will see you now
The GP substitute will see you now

raduv1

Try reading again  

Table 1.13 - Total Managed Expenditure by departmental group and other expenditure in real terms, 2013-14 to 2019-20